04. Difference between a HLP and a CLP with Spring Hanger selection in AutoPIPE?


Applies To
Product(s):AutoPIPE,
Version(s):ALL
Environment: N/A
Area: Hanger Selection
Original Author:Bentley Technical Support Group

Problem:

I thought I fully understood the difference between using the hot load procedure (HLP) and the cold load procedure (CLP) to size a spring hanger, but I guess I was wrong. I have tried running the "WALKTHRU" sample using both the HLP & the CLP, which should give me the same spring size, given the same thermal deflection and GR load from my V-stop run. I end up with two different spring sizes, which has to be incorrect.

Solution:

No, each procedure is fundamentally different when sizing a spring and therefore the spring size and cold load will be different.

As mentioned in the online help:

A. Hot Load Design Hanger Selection Procedure: 

A rigid restraint (V-stop) replaces the hanger for the gravity (GR) load case. The calculated support reaction is the hot load to be carried by the hanger.

B. Cold Load Design Hanger Selection Procedure

A rigid restraint (V-stop) replaces the hanger for the gravity (GR) load case. The calculated support reaction is the cold load to be carried by the hanger.

Example: GR load on the support Dy = -1975 lbs, and T1 movement, Dy = +0.204".

Per the Cold Load method, the Hot Load is interpolated  to be 1836.6 lbs as shown below:

 

 Per the Hot Load method, the Cold Load is interpolated  to be 2158.2 lbs as shown below:

Note: In the cold load procedure above the Cold Preload for all springs was 1975.0 lbs, however here in the Hot Load procedure, all the Hot load values are 1975.0 lbs.

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Again, totally different springs are selected when using the different hanger selection procedures. 

See Also

Spring Hanger Selection - AutoPIPE

Bentley AutoPIPE